I have mastered the nupp and it is good. The first row I knitted the 5 stitches way too tight and had to use a 2mm needle to get into them. For the following rows I knitted quite loosely and it worked really well. I am determined to cast this off to night - but I had to rip back the 2nd last chart today and I made some silly mistake - I am blaming my adventures of yesterday where I had a minor procedure with a general which really knocked me about. Thank goodness for life lines I say.